VUCA Masters! Leadership Fitness Agility with Nick Horney and Dr. Kozhi Makai — Inspirational Insights podcast

Dawna Jones
3 min readNov 6, 2021

The Inspirational Insights podcast started in 2016 to share different perspectives on working with a rapidly changing world while bringing out the best, deeper creative talent held in each person. Episode 84 features leadership fitness agility master Nick Horney, author of VUCA Masters: Developing Leadership Agility Fitness for the New World of Work, and special guest Dr. Kozhi Makai who is a VUCA Master.

In this interview we talk about working with uncertainty, complexity, volatility and ambiguity conditions by leading at a level of fitness to match the conditions. As Nick describes it, “VUCA master is someone that can and does demonstrate that leadership, agility, fitness — a new term that I wanted to introduce to the world of agile, the agile community and leaders in general.”

VUCA is a term that originated with the US army and though it has been around for over a decade, recognition that the external conditions are not predictable has still not yet altered how decisions are made by leaders. Dr. Kozhi Makai was raised in a complex country so a level of uncertainty goes with immersion in that culture. When he arrived in the U.S. he took on one challenge after another eventually becoming one of Nick’s VUCA Masters.

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Dawna Jones

Collectively designing a better world through conscious decision-making leadership. Adaptive Decision-making, Strategic Insights, Inspirational Insights Podcast